Topic: eJuice Calculator - HOW TO

[Breaktru Admin]

eJuice Me Up
Interpreting the PG and VG % boxes and where to put what.

The first line is for the unflavored Nicotine eLiquid. It can be purchased with a number of PG/VG based percentages and strengths. Three boxes are provided for that info. If you use Nicotine already at your desired strength and do not want to cut it, enter the strength in the Nic Strength box and 0 in the Target box. If you are mixing Zero Nic and flavors only, enter 0 in both the Nic Strength and Target Nic box. The second line has a box for what Nicotine strength you would like your final result to be after adding all of your ingredients. The third line (Amount to Make) is self explanatory. The forth line (Water/Vodka/PGA) is also self explanatory. I rarely use this. PGA is Pure Grain Alcohol The fifth through the ninth line is for the flavoring you are adding. I rarely use more than 20% flavoring, mostly 12 to 20% and that depends on the potency of the flavoring. If you're using more than 1 flavor, they should all add up to the percentage I mentioned. NOT 20% each but say 10% + 10% for two flavors. NOTE: PG% and the VG%: most flavoring is PG based. In that case you would put 100% in the PG box. What you put in the PG or VG box is deducted from the amount of PG/VG you add which cuts the Nic down to the Target Strength. There are only a couple of companies who do not use PG or VG so you can check the Flavor Zero PG/VG box on the Flavoring row. Further down there is the "Resulting Recipe". The PG% and VG% boxes are to change the final eJuice PG/VG out come. In other words, what you want your eJuice to be. If you receive a warning pop up to add VG or PG that is because the calculator came up with a negative number. Adjustments will have to be made. Say you have a negative for PG, you will then make the PG% higher until it shows 0. Up on the Menu, "File", "Save As Default", you can now Save your settings as a default which will load your settings when the program first opens. You can create several default files by naming them what ever you like. Note: on start up, the Default.dft file will be called first. The button at the bottom which use to be "Rest" is now called "Get Default" will open a Dialog box to select a Default file that you saved. You may find some recipes in a Forum listed in Percentages totaling 100% This form of percentage does not tell you how much (how strong) to add to your recipe. This example shows how to convert to a usable percentage. Each of the 4 flavors were 25% = 100%. You determine the total strength of flavoring. Say that you wanted to add 16% total flavoring, each flavoring would be 4%. It's easy using equal percentages but the calculator is more helpful when using unequal percentages. Enter two known values to calculate the two remaining values. Note: When using with a voltage regulator, I would like to point out that your current / wattage maybe limited to the maximum capability of what the regulator can output. So because the calculations say a particular value, that does not mean that you are actually getting the values shown. Check your regulators Spec Sheet. eJuice Me Up Web Site: http://ejuice.breaktru.com

Epsilon Posted this great pdf over at ECF: http://ejuice.breaktru.com/ejmutut.pdf

What is the Warning Pop-Up Window about Negative Amounts?
See: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/140495-thumbs-up-breaktru-nice-update-e-juice-me-up-calculator-7.html#post3792291

Posted by mikespiked
I usually make almost 100% VG juices... the only PG is the flavorings... but I've had a hard time using the calculator when trying to do this. (see the attatched picture) If I input 100% VG for nic base and 100% PG for flavoring, it will still ask me to put in PG to the mix, and if I dont I get an error. I could just be doing something wrong though. Any help would be much appreciated.

The calculations are correct. A neg PG amount was generated because of the added total of 15% PG in your 2 flavoring.
Put 17.5% PG in the PG result as shown in the Pix below. This is the TRUE result due to the PG in the flavoring.

Posted by Randyrtx
See below... getting a similar problem with a 100% PG mix using 5% water. Where's the VG coming from?

Because you are adding 5% in the Water/Vodka/PGA box. 5% is equally deducted from PG (2.5%) and VG (2.5%) Result equally. It's the VG 2.5% that's giving the neg result.

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Using Flavoring with NO PG or VG.
A new version has been released on 9/2/11 with options to check off ZERO PG/VG for flavoring.
Most name brand flavoring should be 100% PG but the option was added for a couple of brands with no PG/VG.
You can over install it and it will perform an upgrade to your existing version.
You're recipes will remain and not lost.
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Version 10.1.0.0 - 9/02/11
   Zero PG/VG for flavoring added
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Version 10.2.0.0 - 9/06/11
   Zero and uncut Nic mixing for mixing flavoring only

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Just released Version 10.3.0.0 - 9/16/11 to fix a total calculation of eJuice error that was induced in version 10.1.0.0 for zero flavor PG/VG
Seems I missed it with all my testing and was pointed out by a user who did not submit his/her name.

[horton]

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!    Your post really helps clarify using the program..... Thank you very much!!!!!

[asnider123]

Hi, excellent program, having problems printing. Gives following error when I try to print card:

Application has generated an error that could not be handled
Process ID=0x15c0 (5568), Thread ID=0x11e8 (4584)

I am running win7pro. Any idea how to solve this prob? Thanks

[Breaktru Admin]

Hi, excellent program, having problems printing. Gives following error when I try to print card:

Application has generated an error that could not be handled
Process ID=0x15c0 (5568), Thread ID=0x11e8 (4584)

I am running win7pro. Any idea how to solve this prob? Thanks

Al, do you see the Printer Property Window or does the error generate immediately?

[melissajo61]

how do I download the calculator?? Im a newbie and having problems

[Breaktru Admin]

Hi MelissaJo,

how do I download the calculator?? Im a newbie and having problems

Hi MelissaJo, The direct link is: http://breaktru.com/ejuicemeup.zip
After downloading the zip file, either open the zip or extract it to a temp folder.
Then double click the setup.exe file to install the calculator.

[vaperkarma]

I like the easy tutorial, it cleared up a few questions I had.
BTW, this program rocks. I have it opened on my desktop for quick reference.
Thank you for allowing us to use it for free.

[Haileah]

I have been using this calculator since version 1 and it just keeps getting better.
I'm sending recipes via email breaktru.

[rrtwister]

I like Epsilons pdf on the eJuice Calculator.
Very informative. I'm sure it will help others with questions that they may have (you have to log on to ECF):

Instructional PDF:http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/attachments/diy-e-liquid/31418d1299349575-i-need-help-breaktru-e-calcultor-9-0-version-ejmutut.pdf

[elzakivis]

I have used all of the calculators and this is by far the best.
I was led to this site from several ecig forums and found that members claim that this is the most sophisticated calc and best.
I seen "eJuice me up? on the Aussie, UK, ECF, International, Thai, Danish forums by goggling around.

[Breaktru Admin]

I notice that a few user's of the eJuice Me Up calculator are miss-interpreting the Flavoring PG/VG ratios.
The PG/VG boxes next to the 5 flavoring lines are suppose to be for the base ingredient of the flavor and not the desired ratio.
Example: most flavoring contains PG, so 100% is required in the PG box next to the flavor.
You may want to view the "How to" post that will explain the boxes in the first post above.
Also, ECF member Epsilon has created a pdf which may be more explanatory: http://ejuice.breaktru.com/ejmutut.pdf

[ronlitton]

How do I resize the eJuice window to fit on my netbook's smaller screen?  As it is now, it's too big to display, and I can't get to the click boxes at the bottom of the window, so I can't use the calculator on my netbook, and have to wait until I get home to my desktop computer.

[missyvape]

How do I resize the eJuice window to fit on my netbook's smaller screen?  As it is now, it's too big to display, and I can't get to the click boxes at the bottom of the window, so I can't use the calculator on my netbook, and have to wait until I get home to my desktop computer.

Hit the Maximize button up at the top right hand corner. Then you will see a scroll bar to the far right hand part of the window.
Scroll up and down.

[vaperkarma]

I have found that if I'm mixing more than one recipe, I can open multiple windows by clicking on the Desktop Icon again and have side to side calculator recipes opened. Neat!

[Breaktru Admin]

Yes VK, you found my little secret.
Sometimes I mix 5 bottles/recipes at once. Open five instances of eJuice Me Up and place them side by side in order of the five bottles laid out in front of me.
This way I can do all the Nic filling at the same time. Then on to the PG, then VG. Much faster that way.

**CAUTION**
Just be aware of what you are doing and DON'T get distracted especially when filling with Nicotine. You don't want to accidentally add a double dose of Nic.

[Judeep27]

Wow!what a calculator!It has many uses and very high tech.This is my 1t time to see a calculator as powerful as this!

[Breaktru Admin]

Wow!what a calculator!It has many uses and very high tech.This is my 1t time to see a calculator as powerful as this!

WARNING! Judeep27
Please explain yourself... Before I ban you for posting what looks like spam of an importing company in China, using a Philippians IP address and using a profile with a Florida USA location....


Update: Member has been banned and spam removed 

[lulu836]

I guess I'm a little slow on the uptake with your great calculator.  My problem in understanding is with the percentages breakdown when using more than one flavoring.  If I have a receipe that calls for 3 flavors such as 12%, 4% and 4% do I then break it down to 3,1 and 1?  That is assuming that I have made all the correct entries for diluting 36mg/ml nicjuice to 10mg/ml and substituting the 50-50 PG/VG for 80/20?

What I'm making even after steeping for 10 days bears no resemblence in flavor to what it is supposed to be and it seems to be a little too thick which has to be the PG %.  I would really appreciate your help.

[Breaktru Admin]

I guess I'm a little slow on the uptake with your great calculator.  My problem in understanding is with the percentages breakdown when using more than one flavoring.  If I have a receipe that calls for 3 flavors such as 12%, 4% and 4% do I then break it down to 3,1 and 1?  That is assuming that I have made all the correct entries for diluting 36mg/ml nicjuice to 10mg/ml and substituting the 50-50 PG/VG for 80/20?

What I'm making even after steeping for 10 days bears no resemblence in flavor to what it is supposed to be and it seems to be a little too thick which has to be the PG %.  I would really appreciate your help.

12%, 4% and 4% is correct.
Post what you have and what you want it to be and I'll post an image of it in the calculator.
Include your 36mg Nic. Is it VG or PG and what percent is it. Sounds like you are saying it's 50/50?
I didn't know your final Amount so I used 10ml
What brand Flavoring is it? That would tell me if it's 100% PG or not.

As far as taste goes, a little experimenting with flavoring may be in order.
Thick? it shouldn't be thick if it's 80% PG.

See attached.........

[horton]

I agree with Breaktru about the multiple flavorings.  It can be a "crap shoot" at times.  Sometimes a combination of flavors that you think will taste one way comes out completely different.  It all boils down to how those little molecules get along together in your juice.  Just stop and consider how many different molecules are in just a single flavor juice and go from there.  The more flavors  you add, the number of different combinations goes vertical.     
What I do many times is to start out with just one of the flavors and see how it tastes.  Then I'll add in some of flavor number 2 and check the taste.  Right then, with the two flavors  you will be able to tell if that particular combination is taking you in the right direction or not.  If it is, add the third flavor and give another taste.   Again, you will then see how the third flavor "plays" with the first two. 
Many times I end up adjusting the %'s even though in my mind I feel a certain combination of flavors should taste a certain way.  You have to keep experimenting and ultimately  you will get just the flavor you are looking for.  It may be completely different from your initial %'s. 
Using a drip tip can be very handy for mixing multiple flavors or single flavors for that matter.  With the drip tip, you can make smaller batches of juice and not waste the valuable nic juice or any other component for that matter.  You are only using a few drops at a time rather than filling a carto or cartridge with every change.   You also may notice a difference in the final mix between dripping and say a CE2 or a Boge carto.  Every device gives a slightly different vape and flavor.
Hope this little "tome" helped you...... horton -- out

[Breaktru Admin]

Thank you Horton for your expert comment to this issue.
It makes a lot sense especially about combining flavors.

lulu, did my attached image of the calc help in any way? If you click on it, you will be able to see it better.

[horton]

Glad I could be of service.   
Making your own juice (to me) is an absolute blast.   Sometimes you  come up with a real winner, and all of the time you  have fun AND learn even if a "creation" doesn't quite come out the way you anticipated. 
I became so tired of buying juice based on the description written by a vendor (s),  which made the juice sound mouth watering, only to get the bottle and be very disappointed.  I figured I could disappoint myself just as well and for less money to boot!! lol  That's honestly  how I got into making my own juice.   It can be very satisfying to make a juice with your own two little hands that you want to vape all day.  It's sort of like tying flies or building a fishing rod and then catching a fish on that fly and rod combo you made.  What a very satisfying experience.
If you shop around a little, it isn't all that costly to get into DIY juice making.  I hope it's OK to mention a site, but DIYFlavorShack sells some very nice starter kits that have everything you need to get up and running all in one box.  What could be easier than that?  I bought my kit from Dawn and have been a mad scientist ever since.....lol.  Of course, I went crazy buying flavorings from all over the place and  I could probably make 50 gallons of juice right now!!  Once you have the basics, you then can start to selectively shop for deals.  There have been some fantastic deals on unflavored nic juice recently for example.  You only need to sign up at the different vendor sites and get on their mailing lists.  It's amazing how often and how many sales there are.
Once again, I've probably bored you to death with my over exuberance.  I'll just say one last thing (maybe).... you won't go wrong using Breaktru's fine calculator and some imagination to come up with  very tasty juices of your own.  And don't let one bum batch get you down (give it to someone you don't like --- just joking).  My juice may not come in pretty bottles (that's a topic for another day), but it sure tastes good and my wife and I enjoy it every day.     horton -- out           

[lulu836]

12%, 4% and 4% is correct.
Post what you have and what you want it to be and I'll post an image of it in the calculator.
Include your 36mg Nic. Is it VG or PG and what percent is it. Sounds like you are saying it's 50/50?
I didn't know your final Amount so I used 10ml
What brand Flavoring is it? That would tell me if it's 100% PG or not.

As far as taste goes, a little experimenting with flavoring may be in order.
Thick? it shouldn't be thick if it's 80% PG.

See attached.........

Thanks for the reply.  You got it right with the info I gave but I'm afraid I didn't give all the info.  I use 100% PG unflavored nicjuice.  So I change the 50/50 at the top of the calculator to 100% and go from there.  The flavoring is all from The Perfumer's (Flavor) Apprentice which I assume is 100% PG.  I just don't know when to use the percentages posted in any recipe and when it is necessary to go to the flavoring breakdown. 

[Breaktru Admin]

Yes flavoring would be 100% PG.
For "Flavoring Percentage" (breakdown), see the OP (original post) up top. Next to the image of the F.P. is an explanation.

[Breaktru Admin]

I hope that the German Translate was correct.
Ich hoffe, dass das deutsche Übersetzen richtig war.

[marlow57]

This is by far the best calculator of the bunch. I use this exclusively.
Note to user's. Take the time to look over the How to. There are a few users who have mistaken what the PG/VG percentages are and confuse the Nic ratio with the target ratio. Also take note of what your flavoring PG/VG ratio is and how that will effect the final target ratio. 

[geothee]

This is by far the best calculator of the bunch. I use this exclusively.
Note to user's. Take the time to look over the How to. There are a few users who have mistaken what the PG/VG percentages are and confuse the Nic ratio with the target ratio. Also take note of what your flavoring PG/VG ratio is and how that will effect the final target ratio. 

I agree totally.